La Milonga, 1819

By Ricardo De Peńa, Waipio.
After independence in Argentina, 1816, it was the rise of the Compadres (the Godfathers,) in La Orilla, (The Edge) who really promoted the Milonga. Even though the changing Milonga ebbed and flowed over a large territory of at least one thousand miles in diameter around them because of the Guachos. These Compadres were local men of some means, sometimes shady dealings, smugglers, slightly better off than the Compadritos who tried to emulate them. And they owned most of the brothels in the Orilla. The Compadritos were street men, petty criminals and small time pimps. But here was the real basics of Argentine Tango.

"Tango is about feeling and sensitivity, otherwise you are just

doing gymnastics. You can do all the steps but it has

to have the feeling and sensitivity of Tango."

This was still mainly a local Indian dance colored by European preferences.We know the Milonga had existed among the Indians in South America for at least 500 years. And it was even danced by the very low class newcomers in the same way for a few centuries after their arrival in the 1500s. Greek style Milonga (men in a line dance with interlocked arms) became sporadic, The Guachos increased in their importance. But the real partner creation of the new dance came in the middle of the 1800s with the arrival of thousands of Europeans and the introduction of the Bandoneon.

"El Dia Que Me Quieras" por Carlos Gardel

The "Orilla" developed rapidly. The young Indian and Mestizo girls that were “enticed” usually started for the middle class men as “Virgins.” From there a very few would move into a higher class and even find a Godfather who married or not had the money to keep her as a mistress. Many would drop into being lower class prostitutes with even lower class Compadritos. But the new partner Milonga continue to evolve and with it the introduction of the obscenity of sex in the lyrics. This was most often in Milonga but also in the crossbreeding of all the newcomers music and dance too.

"The important thing is to know why we want to dance. We dance

a solitude that we have inside us and cannot occupy with

anything, This gap, that emptiness to which we put

movement, is the TANGO."  ~ Carlos Gavito

You Wanna Dance?

Getting started with dancing

You can dance in a group, with a partner, or on your own. There are lots of different places where you can enjoy dancing, at dance studios, school cafeterias, social club venues, district parks and community centers and in your own home. Dancing has become such a popular way to be active and extend your social activities. It will keep you physically fit and most fitness clubs now offer dance classes in their group exercise programs. It also plays a key role in memory and learning, as well as keeping one's balance. You can't lose and you can have a lot of fun.

"Social dancers believe that the more dancers at a social, the

more chance there is that everyone gets to dance!"

Dancing can be done both competitively and socially. Exhibition dancers are admired universally. It can be a great recreational and sporting choice, because anyone of any age can take part. It doesn’t matter whether it is cold or raining, as dancing is usually done indoors. And social dancers do not have many requirements like many other styles of dance and most know what to wear. And everyone knows what is appropriate at a special dance function like the Christmas dance coming up.

"Jingle Bells"

The gear you need for dancing will depend on the style of dancing you choose. Tap dancing will involve buying tap shoes, whereas ballet will need ballet slippers and ballet clothing. Fortunately, for social dancing it doesn't take much. And no one has to say "No Slippahs." To get started, some dancers simply choose a style they would like to try. They have friends and they will get advice. The results are that Social Dancers are coming into their own.

"Social Dancers try to do good and make it the life they want to live."

The North Shore

 The Developing Night Life

Uncle Bo's Haleiwa, Restaurant - Unpretentious outpost with modern styling for cocktails

& a mix of local, Asian & American dishes. - Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-111 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

"Tiny Bubbles" by Don Ho

Stormy's Gastropub, Restaurant - Low-key, rustic offering hearty pub grub plates

alongside tropical drinks, wine & beer.- Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-165 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

One more Residential tract plus an Industrial Park, a couple Night clubs and

you can live, work and play in your own Kuleana.

Banzai Sushi Bar, Sushi restaurant - Stylish spot for sushi & Japanese fare, plus a full bar,

traditional floor seating & outdoor patio. - Located in: North Shore Marketplace

Address: 66-246 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

"Morning Dew" by Melveen Leed

Breakers Restaurant & Bar, Seafood restaurant - Surfboards adorn this seafood-centric

American hangout with a full tiki-style bar & patio seating.

Located in: North Shore Marketplace

Address: 66-250 Kamehameha Hwy. Haleiwa, HI

Uncle Bo's Haleiwa. Restaurant - Unpretentious outpost with modern styling for cocktails
& a mix of local, Asian & American dishes. Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-111 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI 96712

"Maui Waltz" by Loyal Garner

The Comments section has been cut off because of too much scam spam comments.
So we lack much information of what's happening on Oahu, last week, this week
and next week.You got something? Email it in and I will post with your name.

"Social Dancers know that you cannot find peace by avoiding life."

The North Shore

 The Developing Night Life

Uncle Bo's Haleiwa, Restaurant - Unpretentious outpost with modern styling for cocktails

& a mix of local, Asian & American dishes. - Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-111 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

"Tiny Bubbles" by Don Ho

Stormy's Gastropub, Restaurant - Low-key, rustic offering hearty pub grub plates

alongside tropical drinks, wine & beer.- Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-165 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

One more Residential tract plus an Industrial Park, a couple Night clubs and

you can live, work and play in your own Kuleana.

Banzai Sushi Bar, Sushi restaurant - Stylish spot for sushi & Japanese fare, plus a full bar,

traditional floor seating & outdoor patio. - Located in: North Shore Marketplace

Address: 66-246 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI

"Morning Dew" by Melveen Leed

Breakers Restaurant & Bar, Seafood restaurant - Surfboards adorn this seafood-centric

American hangout with a full tiki-style bar & patio seating.

Located in: North Shore Marketplace

Address: 66-250 Kamehameha Hwy. Haleiwa, HI

Uncle Bo's Haleiwa. Restaurant - Unpretentious outpost with modern styling for cocktails
& a mix of local, Asian & American dishes. Located in: Haleiwa Store Lots

Address: 66-111 Kamehameha Hwy, Haleiwa, HI 96712

"Maui Waltz" by Loyal Garner

The Comments section has been cut off because of too much scam spam comments.
So we lack much information of what's happening on Oahu, last week, this week
and next week.You got something? Email it in and I will post with your name.

"Social Dancers know that you cannot find peace by avoiding life."

Palladium

By Mary Beth Van Hoogstraten

FREE AFTERNOON BALLROOM DANCING at the PALLADIUM
Mon. through Thurs. (EXCEPT STATE HOLIDAYS!)
This is NOT A BALLROOM DANCE CLASS, it is AN AFTERNOON DANCE, a time to PRACTICE BALLROOM, Swing, and West Coast Swing dances!
WE ARE SOCIAL DANCERS so do not expect perfection. MALE LEADS are especially needed, even rusty or beginning DANCERS are WELCOME! Enjoy the GREAT MUSIC, AIR CONDITIONING, FREE PARKING! Come and DANCE with us!...

"I Will Dance For You" by Willie K

The LOCATION is The Ala Wai PALLADIUM,
404 Kapahulu Ave., Honolulu 96815

which IS the 2nd floor of the
Ala Wai Golf Course Clubhouse,

Take the short access, road alongside the Waikiki Public Library, straight into the FREE parking lot!

The DJ plays music to dance the Waltz, Quick Step, Fox Trot, Tango, Rumba, Jive/Swing, Samba, Mambo, Cha-Cha, Viennese Waltz, West Coast Swing, Night Club 2 Step, Hustle, and occasionally Salsa, Bachata, and Merengue!

"City Lights" by Loyal Garner

The FREE Ala Wai Palladium Ballroom dance times
(except state holidays) are:

Monday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Tuesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Wednesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Thursday, 11:30am until 2:15pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Message me now with questions, OR, Just show up! !

DANCE each day!

"Music is a friend of the dancer for it lightens the task by refreshing the nerves and spirit."

Feedback

We are in need of FEEDBACK. People of Oahu willing to share their 2 cents of dance information with our fellow dancers. If I was famous it would be not be a problem the hits would be there in the thousands per day. Unfortunately Oahu has me in the blogs and that is commonly referred to as SOS. (same old shit.) I say blue, all the time. And along comes someone that says, GREEN. Readers galore and the hits go through the roof. Why? simply because it is no longer SOS.

"Social Dancers know that if you only dance with your partner, you are

not a Social Dancer, Not bad,  just not a Social Dancer."

There are many good people coming into our social dance agenda. And fortunately they have been accepted, we are a friendly people. Naturally, like anywhere else everything it is divided into three classes. Many are the A dancers that just like the social dance scene. They may attend a dance function once or twice a month and mostly for the social opportunities, you get to meet so many nice people. Generally you are just a member in good standing. The class AA dancers are a little more than that and fortunately are the biggest portion of the enchilada.  Most take classes regularly and take every opportunity to perfect their moves and have fun doing it. ANYWHERE.

"Sweet Someone" by Don Ho

Most of us accept the fact that none of us is perfect and we are not clones, So there comes a time when you wish but only if you wish to volunteer to be a Class AAA member, same price. You are just willing to do a little more. They are mainly our teachers and the "benevolent oligarchies" running whatever club is at hand. We are so lucky we got some good ones. You wanna dance? Fine, but these people want to do more, and this where they help far more than others. In the last century they use to have newsletter to share information with the readers now we have blogs. Feedback for blogs will be very pertinent.

"Social Dancers may attribute their successes to this:

They never gave or took any excuse."

The Famous Palladium

By Mary Beth Van Hoogstraten

FREE AFTERNOON BALLROOM DANCING at the PALLADIUM
Mon. through Thurs. (EXCEPT STATE HOLIDAYS!)
This is NOT A BALLROOM DANCE CLASS, it is AN AFTERNOON DANCE, a time to PRACTICE BALLROOM, Swing, and West Coast Swing dances!
WE ARE SOCIAL DANCERS so do not expect perfection. MALE LEADS are especially needed, even rusty or beginning DANCERS are WELCOME! Enjoy the GREAT MUSIC, AIR CONDITIONING, FREE PARKING! Come and DANCE with us!...

"Shores of Haleiwa" by Loyal Gardner

The LOCATION is The Ala Wai PALLADIUM,
404 Kapahulu Ave., Honolulu 96815

Which IS the 2nd floor of the
Ala Wai Golf Course Clubhouse,

Take the short access, road alongside the Waikiki Public Library, straight into the FREE parking lot!

The DJ plays music to dance the Waltz, Quick Step, Fox Trot, Tango, Rumba, Jive/Swing, Samba, Mambo, Cha-Cha, Viennese Waltz, West Coast Swing, Night Club 2 Step, Hustle, and occasionally Salsa, Bachata, and Merengue!

"Sweet Someone" by Don Ho

The FREE Ala Wai Palladium Ballroom dance times
(except state holidays) are:

Monday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Tuesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Wednesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Thursday, 11:30am until 2:15pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Message me now with questions, OR, Just show up! !

DANCE each day!

"Social dancers know that thing’s don’t happen to them, they happen for them."

The 21st Century

In the last century we had the American Style of dance introduced on Oahu officially by the Aiea Ballroom Dance Association in the 60s.That still left a large remainder of us in the street dancer environment on Oahu, The International came in the 70s and rose through the 80s to be bigger than the American until the opening of the famous Oahu Palladium. Then the moves that were "correct" for the International Style became "Correct" period. If you were not dancing their way, by default, you were dancing "Incorrectly."

"Social dancers do not have the conclusive advice that could get us up
out of our seats and start dancing to our favorite beat."

The term "Ala Wai Dancer" came about to describe the people that were dancing at the Ala Wai club house. This was mainly in the American Style of Dance. And these new people were definitely looking down at anyone that did not dance their way. Within a year of the opening of the famous Oahu Palladium, a new term arose. "Junk Dancer" for anyone not dancing the International. This was with a deadly Gong sound and this was with the acceptance that the Intentional Style was "Ballroom." All others were something else. And none in that high and mighty group realized that the day of the Big Bands and the Big Ballrooms were over.

"Maui Waltz'" by Loyal Garner

Now we are in  the 21st century and dancing on Oahu is changing for the better of all the dancers, not just the self proclaimed upper classes. American Style of Dance is reclaiming some of their lost ground and the Social Dancers are still emerging and now considered over half of the dancers on Oahu. Many of the discipline dances are out or minimized in socials. And many new fad dances are being accepted. And when was the last time you dropped in some night club for a little Paso Doble? That is International.

"Creativity Is Inventing, Experimenting, Growing, Taking Risks,

Breaking Rules, Making Mistakes, And Having Fun."

Night Clubs, Why?

By Aleta Santos, Waipio
I have been doing it for some time and I still don't know. Men can go look for someone who just got divorced. They will not be afraid of a good time. If they go for single girl who's never been married she may just leave with friends. A divorced woman will have her friends rooting for her to go home with him. Depends on the night club. Some might have sex, - dance, - be obnoxious whatever. Personally, I prefer dance clubs for experience dancers....those are the best. Women - the majority go to have fun with other women, drink, and dance. They also go to tease men a bit, but more often they want to be left alone to have fun.

"Social dancers know that others who are not as strong may actually help them to

refine their basic actions, giving them a chance to perfect their technique."

Men - the majority believe they go to drink, dance and meet women, but social dancers dance because they like to dance. It may also show that they are outgoing and perhaps be more attractive to women. The reality is that women aren't there generally to pick up men, they are there to have a good time, so some men may feel rejected and unlucky if they go with that expectation. The solution is to go to clubs to have fun, but don't expect a pick up. Thus, clubs are for fun if that is something you enjoy. But there are better ways to spend a night, that is for sure,

"From Here To Eternity" by Englebert Humperdinck

Too much drinking and talking are silly in a club .... its too expensive and too loud to do much of either. Dancers have a long time reputation of not being drunks. Small talk just to be sociable is nice. Dancing would be the key ..... they have a better sound system than you do, and hopefully you're at the club because they have good music you want to hear. I suppose it can be a fun place to be high, especially if you dig dancing high, but if you miss-dose it can easily be just a loud obnoxious place full of idiots. That's my take .... I've noticed a lot of some people seem to be at the club to show off, or pick-up, or get in fights .... luckily its too loud to have to talk to them. And fortunately on Oahu there plenty of good clubs.

"Social dancers two step through life's rhythms of ups and downs, waltz through

days and nights because life was meant for them. But once life is done

with us, we know that life will pass us on to meet Eternity."

The Palladium On Oahu

By Mary Beth Van Hoogstraten

FREE AFTERNOON BALLROOM DANCING at the PALLADIUM
Mon. through Thurs. (EXCEPT STATE HOLIDAYS!)
This is NOT A BALLROOM DANCE CLASS, it is AN AFTERNOON DANCE, a time to PRACTICE BALLROOM, Swing, and West Coast Swing dances!
WE ARE SOCIAL DANCERS so do not expect perfection. MALE LEADS are especially needed, even rusty or beginning DANCERS are WELCOME! Enjoy the GREAT MUSIC, AIR CONDITIONING, FREE PARKING! Come and DANCE with us!...

"Music of Hawaii" by Melveen Leed

The LOCATION is The Ala Wai PALLADIUM,
404 Kapahulu Ave., Honolulu 96815
which IS the 2nd floor of the
Ala Wai Golf Course Clubhouse,

Take the short access, road alongside the Waikiki Public Library, straight into the FREE parking lot!

The DJ plays music to dance the Waltz, Quick Step, Fox Trot, Tango, Rumba, Jive/Swing, Samba, Mambo, Cha-Cha, Viennese Waltz, West Coast Swing, Night Club 2 Step, Hustle, and occasionally Salsa, Bachata, and Merengue!

"Fly Me To The Moon" by Jimmy Borges

The FREE Ala Wai Palladium Ballroom dance times
(except state holidays) are:

Monday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Tuesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Wednesday, NOON until 3pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Thursday, 11:30am until 2:15pm, EACH WEEK, all year long
Message me now with questions, OR, Just show up! !

DANCE each day!

"Life has no limitations, except the ones we make on our own."

Don't Go Bananas

Wow, with a little help here and there I am learning about blogging and it is fun. Even one so limited as me, both physically and mentally. I have five blogs and I plan to get rid of my best one as soon as possible. If I can get some of you to want to become bloggers, it’s important to understand that blogging isn’t only about what you write. Yes, your writing is important, however, when writing content, it’s a good idea to incorporate images. They may improve the readability and search engine optimization of your content. One paragraph and one graphic to start with would be just fine. With our counters you will be able to tell if you hits are increasing.

"For some reason or another, social dancers are not interested in the

phenomenological approach to dance, movement and thought

that makes recourse to evolutionary biology. Really?"

Later on you will take plenty of pictures and make collages. You will to take 10 pictures and use the best five. The readers will only be seeing your carefully selected shots. Professional photographers typically take hundreds of pictures of their subjects but only a few are masterpieces. For our blogs, two people in a photo are better than one. Three people are better than two. But ten people are not better than nine. Simple and the photographer still has the choice without providing a reason to anyone. You don’t need to get it right in one try.

"Sweet Someone" by Don Ho

Bananas and Stress:

Potassium is a vital mineral, which helps normalize the heartbeat, sends oxygen to the

brain and regulates your body's water balance. When we are stressed, our

metabolic rate rises, thereby reducing our potassium levels.These can

be re-balanced  with the help of a high-potassium banana snack,

 "Live for Today, Dream for Tomorrow and Learn from Yesterday."

Don't Go Bananas

Wow, with a little help here and there I am learning about blogging and it is fun. Even one so limited as me, both physically and mentally. I have five blogs and I plan to get rid of my best one as soon as possible. If I can get some of you to want to become bloggers, it’s important to understand that blogging isn’t only about what you write. Yes, your writing is important, however, when writing content, it’s a good idea to incorporate images. They may improve the readability and search engine optimization of your content. One paragraph and one graphic to start with would be just fine. With our counters you will be able to tell if you hits are increasing.

"For some reason or another, social dancers are not interested in the

phenomenological approach to dance, movement and thought

that makes recourse to evolutionary biology. Really?"

Later on you will take plenty of pictures and make collages. You will to take 10 pictures and use the best five. The readers will only be seeing your carefully selected shots. Professional photographers typically take hundreds of pictures of their subjects but only a few are masterpieces. For our blogs, two people in a photo are better than one. Three people are better than two. But ten people are not better than nine. Simple and the photographer still has the choice without providing a reason to anyone. You don’t need to get it right in one try.

"Sweet Someone" by Don Ho

Bananas and Stress:

Potassium is a vital mineral, which helps normalize the heartbeat, sends oxygen to the

brain and regulates your body's water balance. When we are stressed, our

metabolic rate rises, thereby reducing our potassium levels.These can

be re-balanced  with the help of a high-potassium banana snack,

 "Live for Today, Dream for Tomorrow and Learn from Yesterday."

Year End Looking Good

These blogs have existed mostly as my personal blogs but we do have an increasing number of (Two Centers,) information contributors, willing to share a little dance information with our fellow dancers. There does not seen a big age differential in our readership, which is just naturally on Oahu. Yes, I have tried to include everyone into our dancing but it doesn't work that easily. This blog seems to be attracting the Night Club action. And for our particular group, we must strive to see that our dancers can easily dance with each other in a social environment, from Kaena Point to Makapuu Point and from Barber's Point to Turtle Bay, on Oahu where we live.

"Social dancers know they can lead the same pattern twice, or even three times,

Followers will be so relieved because they will recognize the move

better the second time and follow it easily!"

Sharing information by blogging is a good way communicating with social dancers. The young have always made the distinction even as far back as my younger days. "Don't trust anyone over 30" and most accept it. Since it is a division they have themselves made, it could be used as the Junior bracket. Around thirty you are no longer in it. The young will always go for the fads. There is no changing that and we must all take it with a grain of salt. They will take them and then they will leave them. That leaves the middles to do as they please and the good dancers will be able to do both. They can have dances for their groups as it has been in the past but every body is welcome to attend, And that will include the young as well as the old. Somewhat like the socials we have now, no looking down at anyone,

"Fly Me To The Moon" by Jimmy Borges

As they grow older they will gravitate towards the older type dances and gradually find themselves quite comfortable in their age bracket. That new step where you throw the lady over your shoulder, you bend over and grab her hands from between your legs and drag her up will not be learned. For the old timers, the ballroom dance disciplines, specially in the American Style of dance, have done a very good job of establishing some standards. Most can be accepted by the Seniors. We could start with the most accepted Ballroom dances we have now. These will very likely change, but by whom? The social dancers should and will be the ultimate judges. Happy Dancing.

" Why did the two knives go to the dance together?
 Because they both looked sharp!"

Moving Right Along

The total hits for "our" blogosphere have been going up. This is from a low when we were able get rid of most of the scam spam robot hits. Most of the dance Websites took their Counters off because they were getting less than double digit average hits per day. So now we have only one outsider in our spread sheet analysis and that is Honolulu Dance Guide and they are at the top of the list on Oahu. Of course. They represent a goal we must meet. My minimum is 9 average hit per day. You can't cut it. - OUT. I need information for dancing on Oahu. I still have Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr and Pinterest.

"Young social swing dancers know that the muscle exertion and
breathing rates of dancers performing in a swing dance 
may be equivalent to that of cyclists, swimmers,
and Olympic 800-meter runners."

The Oligarchies on Oahu seem to realize the mess on Oahu in this century and know they can do something about it. They have from the beginning been "Benevolent Oligarchies" so it hasn't been that bad. They made their bed and now they know they do not have to sleep in it. So many good smart people newly arriving to join the dance community. They will make the difference and the dance blogs will evolve it into real Social Media. As many of you are aware, opinions will be shared and that of course, shakes up the whole enchilada.

"Fly Me To The Moon" by Jimmy Borges

Secondly we must communicate to more people that may be interested, Those that just want to dance. let them, don't interfere, They are still our friends. The reader/dancers will decide by FEEDBACK what could be done, suggestions,  Whatever these persons wish to contribute in the information, that is the blog that will get the reader/dancers. We have been good at getting Information contributors and the results show in our blogs. Once we can get good information contributors it is relatively easy to convert them into Guest Bloggers, and they can get in, write, insert photos, and get out without saying "boo" to anyone.

"Social dancers know that the muscle exertion and breathing rates
of dancers performing in a swing dance is equivalent to that
of cyclists, swimmers, and Olympic 800-meter runners."

Wahiawa Blow Out

The day was not too good for me but I could look forward to going to Wahiawa for their Halloween dance in the evening. The Handi Van arrived promptly at six and I was there before seven. TA DA!

First batch of photos in Social Dance Oahu blog.

Nice smiling crowd already forming and dancing started in no time to the terrific music of Leland, all of it was very welcomed. Maile had some good help working on the setup. People kept coming with the goodies to eat and the dancing proceeded very nicely. It was also nice to see so much line dancing and it is still mostly women and much is too difficult for me. Getting more men is nice. Keep it up men, it may make you a better partner dancer.

"Happy Halloween!! It's scary how much fun it is to move and dance
to a musical beat and feel so alive. Thanks, WBDC
for making it happen." ~ Richard.

The dancers were smiling and laughing, having fun until shortly before 8 and we had got in the circle holding hands and Leo said Grace. The line then formed for all that delicious food fit for royalty. I cannot eat there, but thanks to Maile she got me a plate to take home. And this becomes Dine and Dance. Plenty of good old talking story when you are eating.

"Happy Halloween! Have a fantastic scary dance nite of
friends and friendly spirits." ~ Peter Sy

I have to thank Richard, Craig, Rod and Leo for some great help in getting the photos. They did a great job, I got enough to be able to delete the worst fuzzy ones because the resolution is too high on the camera and I don't know how to fix it. The duplicates and the singles, I was able to delete. The next batch will go into the Town dancer blog.

 "Happy Halloween! May all the joy of the coming season

fill you heart, Enjoy." ~ Leo Delgado

I asked the Handi Van for a 9 o'clock pick up and they were not sure. I got ready at 8:30 and moved to the door and waited until almost 9:30. He had two people in the van and picked another later. I don't complain as long as they get me home.

"The Truth which has made us free should in the end make us glad, also."